tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post5926904947030243339..comments2023-05-31T08:02:34.255-04:00Comments on Bitless horse: Science VS tradition: Science VS tradition: Not all bitless are equalAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14523660446608394720noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-90334691518797056552010-08-14T22:28:23.825-04:002010-08-14T22:28:23.825-04:00I am always amazed at people who want to use a &qu...I am always amazed at people who want to use a "kinder" bridle and use a mechanical hackmore.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08527462761708705266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-31060357193592472992010-08-14T02:17:08.393-04:002010-08-14T02:17:08.393-04:00Ah well Sydney, that's a geographical differen...Ah well Sydney, that's a geographical difference then, here in Europe (well my bit) it's more usual to have flexible noseband and rarely ever a chain under the chin. They are used by showjumpers and for hacking (trail rides I guess for you)we don't have barrel or speed racing the way you do and the hackamore is generally used with a litle more finesse; although not always :-(<br />As always it's the hands that are usually at fault not just the bit.trudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06741901033691017922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-62180840345721155182010-08-13T21:49:49.570-04:002010-08-13T21:49:49.570-04:00I'm learning a lot of good information from yo...I'm learning a lot of good information from your posts. I know my daughter uses a bitless once in a while and she enjoys your posts too. Thanks.Grey Horse Mattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05837575441967937196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-13566093321656336272010-08-13T20:35:29.372-04:002010-08-13T20:35:29.372-04:00Trudi- That is the reason I wrote "usually ri...Trudi- That is the reason I wrote "usually rigid or textured noseband, shanks of some sort that the reins attach to lower than the noseband and a curb chain or strap." I know not all have stiff nosebands but most do. It is very rare to see one that is not stiff.<br /><br />Hackamores of this type used to be the "only" bitless. People still use them but they are mostly limited to barrel racing and speed events.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523660446608394720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-5929260334097282902010-08-13T16:25:40.716-04:002010-08-13T16:25:40.716-04:00Hi Sydney, you say **hackamore= stiff noseband, sh...Hi Sydney, you say **hackamore= stiff noseband, shanks where the reins attach and a curb chain**<br />I had a hackamore made with soft padded noseband and chin strap, it still needs careful application in my opinion and I have moved on to other bitless options but it was a good transition from bit to bitless.<br />Keep up the good work.trudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06741901033691017922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-40081878913850714342010-08-13T02:18:53.677-04:002010-08-13T02:18:53.677-04:00So what kind of Bitless do you use or recommend.Wh...So what kind of Bitless do you use or recommend.What is on your horse in the side bar?Janicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05925307178219109622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-65055102139790993702010-08-13T00:28:15.382-04:002010-08-13T00:28:15.382-04:00No matter what you use on your horse, it's all...No matter what you use on your horse, it's all in the hands. Almost anything can be severe when used by a heavy handed rider. And the same is true in the reverse. Severe head gear can work wonderfully on a hard mouthed/nosed horse when sensitive hands are on the other end.<br /><br />I am becoming intrigued with the bitless bridles you use.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04986249712144982103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-67984287770464275902010-08-12T16:05:10.412-04:002010-08-12T16:05:10.412-04:00Great post. I hate all the confusion with the ter...Great post. I hate all the confusion with the terms. Good job clearing it up for folks. :)Golden the Pony Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15230832980797448174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-37850726142413429282010-08-12T13:16:39.628-04:002010-08-12T13:16:39.628-04:00Sydney,
I really got alot out of your research abo...Sydney,<br />I really got alot out of your research about Bosals & Hackamores.<br /> I sometimes ride with a gal that is uninformed about how to comunicate forward /acceptance of the snaffle in a soft round frame...from her leg and seat. Shr has resorted to "cheating" for a frame of head carriage. I have tried to explain some simple things to her...but it fell on deaf ears. She persists in using a rather large Western, long shanked, curb chained bit, <br />with two handed contact...she, "likes the way it looks". SADDDDD.<br />Her little horse will never develope and always be punished.<br /><br /><br />May I link to this post Sydney?<br />Plus....Juliette did bring up one of my,"it should be common sense" pet peaves. Rope halters for riding + lunging.<br />If you want to give that your...reasoning mind...love to see what you come up with. <br />KKallhorsestuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05301081722884351021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-67352908356003146562010-08-12T11:48:05.892-04:002010-08-12T11:48:05.892-04:00Rope halters with the knots are not hackamores. Li...Rope halters with the knots are not hackamores. Like I said, hackamore= stiff noseband, shanks where the reins attach and a curb chain. The rope halters sometimes have rings on the side, these are sidepulls. The ones that the reins attach on the lead loop are in stopping power the same as a sidepull but in steering like a bosal.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523660446608394720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-20390353570214810862010-08-12T11:29:43.742-04:002010-08-12T11:29:43.742-04:00Im glad you cleared that up about mechanical hacka...Im glad you cleared that up about mechanical hackamores and bosals, when i say hackmkore, I mean bosal, but so many people just assume those mechanical ones. I love riding in my bosal and so does my horse.Crystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18035210092855895218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-87884905885368696152010-08-12T09:03:22.665-04:002010-08-12T09:03:22.665-04:00Super post, Sydney! Well said. Another commenter...Super post, Sydney! Well said. Another commenter brought up a question I often wondered about. What about these rope halters with knots on the pressure points? I use flat leather halters on my ottbs, but I see many people using the rope halters with knots and even riding in the rope halter under the bridle. What are these halters about?juliettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17488138405040629084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-82228450728809045602010-08-12T08:38:11.494-04:002010-08-12T08:38:11.494-04:00Very helpful post - thanks!Very helpful post - thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104422629934443842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8875253307572682101.post-44600262995453482292010-08-12T07:33:49.675-04:002010-08-12T07:33:49.675-04:00I have a great hackamore, not bit in it and it is ...I have a great hackamore, not bit in it and it is made out of soft yaht rope! That is what Parelli natural horsemanship uses. It is just great! We don't even use the normal halters. Ours are made out of the same yaht rope that is soft but yet the knots are where they need to be to give pressure where needed softly!lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01998455958377639450noreply@blogger.com